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"riuscita"

Messaggioda il lago » 21 ago 2015, 18:44


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Re: "riuscita"

Messaggioda Valter Vico » 24 ago 2015, 12:05

Personalmente non credo che "riuscita" sia una traduzione sbagliata perchè corrisponde alla onorabilissima tradizione di interpretazione confuciana riportata diligentemente da Wilhelm.
Quello che probabilmente mette in crisi noi moderni, che vorremmo tutto e subito, gratuitamente e senza impegno, è che secondo Yi la riuscita presuppone l'offerta ed il sacrificio, altri significati possibili del termine corrispondente heng 亨, perchè in definitiva la riuscita di qualunque cosa dipende dalla qualità e dalla quantità di energia che ci metti dentro.

Su "sublime riuscita propizia perseveranza" ho scritto qualcosa qui:
https://wiching.wordpress.com/interpret ... aspettato/
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Re: "riuscita"

Messaggioda il lago » 25 ago 2015, 18:40

Davvero grazie mille per questa risposta perchè non solo chiarisce ma è molto in linea con quanto pensavo io... Esattamente come hai detto leggevo che già i confuciani tradussero il termine con riuscita e credo che infondo se questa non può essere una prova definitiva è di certo una fonte autorevolissima, inoltre scopo della perseveranza, del seguire le 4 tappe (elencate nel tuo articolo e qui sotto), delle barriere, della rettitudine ecc.ecc. altro non è che la riuscita stessa... Trovo molto interessanti queste traduzioni o spiegazioni alternative:
"origine, sviluppo, raccolta, prova”,
o ancora con :
“primavera, estate, autunno, inverno”

Infondo il termine perseveranza potrebbe anche essere lessicalmente errato, ma rende magnificamente l'idea se lo si intende... Spesso i ching ci dicono che il momento per agire non è ancora giunto ma........"propizia è perseveranza", cioè lasciando maturare la situazione e rispettando le tappe ("origine, sviluppo, raccolta, prova”) si arriverà a quella "riuscita" famosa che infondo è lo scopo che vuol farti raggiungere l'oracolo... Tradurre con solo propizio oracolo temo renda meno l'idea, servirebbe almeno quel "oracolo nel lungo tempo"... Insomma, credo che la parola perseveranza quanto meno possa aiutare a capire cosa davvero ci sta suggerendo l'oracolo...

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